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[Tom]

Hmmm...

I dont know what gives you the idea that a magnet weighs more depending whether the north pole face up or down, although I can tell you that you are WAY off on your understanding of the Earth's magnetic field.

First, it only switches every 10,000-100,000 years, not constantly, so it cant be used to generate power any more than a piece of lodestone can.

Second, YOU may not know how it works but it is basically understood and gets its power from nuclear decay, it will not "die out" for billions of years and is far too weak to be used for much more than navigation.

[Cop Killer]

PatC Wrote:
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> now im no scientist, so please excuse my ignorance
> in places. i am one of those tinkerers that hope
> after much trial and error, a perpetual motion
> machine will appear in front of me. i do respect
> the laws of science, mostly i just find it
> challenging and fun to think out the box.
>
> i need someone to tell me where the loop hole is
> in this idea, (because my feeble physics can't see
> it)..
> A pendulum uses the force of gravity to pull it
> down, and its momentum to push it back up. ie:
> gravitational potential energy is converted to
> kinetic energy and back again. in a world of no
> friction, this would be the only conversion of
> energy. (is this right?)
>
> then lets remove the friction. lets put the
> pendulum device in a vacuum chamber. no air
> resistance. next (now im not sure of the physics
> and dynamics of magnets, so here goes..), where
> the pendulum would usually connect to the pivot,
> create an arrangement of magnets, such that the
> pendulum does not touch the base yet is still
> suspended from a fixed point. the magnet
> arrangement would not promote nor push the
> pendulum to any resting position, but be
> completely neutral to the motion of the pendulum.
> there goes friction.
>
> can a complete vacuum be created in a lab
> environment?
> surely a circular arrangement of magnets could be
> formed to create the 'cradle' described above.
>
> sorry; by the way, this is not meant to be an over
> unity machine, yet still a perpetual motion
> machine in the sense of the word.
>
> PatC
Seriously Mr. Scientist is the biggest fag i have ever heard. Im sorry. Im sorry, for his parents, whose offspring has grown into such a horribly homosexual person. Please just kill yourself.

Cop killer

[jahobadahadada]

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I have thought about this (perpetual motion) a bit too much a few years ago. Instead of a pendulum and magnets though I thought on a greater scale of harvesting the energy at the poles of the earth from its rotation. This would have to be a massive structure of course and on the dead center of rotation.

Along with this mind boggle was harvesting the energy from a hurricane and holding it in one location which would in turn make weather nice through out the world in many aeras. wizard's eye on earth!

any insight?

_jahob

[Tom]

Those are both incredibly stupid ideas.

Im not even going to waste the time to name the specific things wrong with them like I do for the posts of most other members with 0 education.

[jahabadahadada]

why even waste your time writting anything then if you have nothing to say only "stupid"? That is stupid! reading your post is a waste of time! People like you should know when not to speak and they will become a big adult by doing so.

[Tom]

I am sorry, what I meant is your two ideas are so rediculous that they do not deserve to be discussed, and so can offer nothing to the forum.

There is nothing different about your post then speculating on building a ladder to the moon or drilling a hole to the core of the earth.

[jahobadahadada]

Im glad to hear your thoughts. Thank You! You were very helpful to my post! Good Job!

[Kirk]

A simple perpetual motion machine.
If you are not familiar with reverse osmosis first read about reverse osmosis membranes.

A pipe is fitted with a reverse osmosis membrane. It is gradually inserted into the ocean and the pipe fills with fresh water. Fresh water is lighter than salt water. At some depth the column of fresh water will be sufficiently lighter than the column of ocean water that the pressure for operation will be naturally present. At that point you have an artesian fresh water source. It will flow until repairs are needed. The definition of perpetual motion is no external energy needed. To say a wheel that turns until the bearings fail isnt perpetual is not understanding what a perpetual motion machine is.

[joe yard]

Tom your ignorance is without bound! I work in scales and do have the equipment and have ran the test repeatedly tested and get repeted results and yes the magnetic coupeling of the earth to a magnet is significant. with the north or southy pole of the magnet switched up or down there is a diference in the atraction of the magnet to the earths core and if a magnet is  put in a float that is adjusted to a specific gravity of say 1.01 to cause the fluat to sink or float depending on poloe orientation. I have set this up and had consistant repeated results as for the magnetic cor we are talking perpetual motion ( just a reminder that means forever) so the poles do flip and in any one aria get stronger or weaker inconsistantly over thousands of years (again perpetual is forever) And neather you or I are  qualified to explain the iradic cycles. So your explination of the nucular decay of the core is like saying light is light becaus it shines.  I do wish you the best but in the future pleas do not coment if you are ignorant and have not checked your facts. I am not caling you stupid just ignorant a condition that can be corected. Pleas do so!

[Desthin]

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I have thought about this (perpetual motion) a bit too much a few years ago. Instead of a pendulum and magnets though I thought on a greater scale of harvesting the energy at the poles of the earth from its rotation. This would have to be a massive structure of course and on the dead center of rotation.

Along with this mind boggle was harvesting the energy from a hurricane and holding it in one location which would in turn make weather nice through out the world in many aeras. wizard's eye on earth!

any insight?

_jahob

the poles of the earth move slightly over as little time as a month...the can move up to feet...this is not a lie...it happens...the magnetic field of the earth is kinda loose